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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 4:26 PM
If thats what you expect you will
4:26 PM
katie always kept shapeshifting
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That’s true. I struggled at first feeling like o was just talking to myself unless I visualized something/someone for me talk to. Some of the guides really put emphasis on visualization in the early stages.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 4:27 PM
i think guides kinda set expectations and limitations if you take them too seriously
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
i think guides kinda set expectations and limitations if you take them too seriously
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 4:28 PM
Bingo, award for you!!! (edited)
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What happened when i was visualizing my tulpa is that he changed his face a bit and changed some other things I think as long as you allow your tulpa to do that, it'll be fine. You can also say "hey, if you want to shapeshift, you can" and then let them decide
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
i think guides kinda set expectations and limitations if you take them too seriously
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 4:29 PM
We created katie (first tulpa) following no guide.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 4:29 PM
same here lol
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
i think guides kinda set expectations and limitations if you take them too seriously
Ah. That’s totally fair. Didn’t even think of that possibility. Someone tells me instructions and I am geared to follow them very specifically
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 4:29 PM
the only "guide" i took to heart was accepting the first response, rest was winged
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possession with dissociation on day 4
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lol
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i think maybe the brain takes care of developing the tulpa for you, if you expect it to, at least thats how i feel it went for me
4:31 PM
of course you have to keep interacting
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I followed the wikihow guide and surprisingly it went really well. I got full vocality in less than 2 days and managed to switch as soon as i tried (with some instruction thanks to some people here) Only thing i havent learned from that guide is imposition which i am working on
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 4:32 PM
the only thing i would care about is talk to the tulpa and figure things out as you go
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Kei Wendt
I followed the wikihow guide and surprisingly it went really well. I got full vocality in less than 2 days and managed to switch as soon as i tried (with some instruction thanks to some people here) Only thing i havent learned from that guide is imposition which i am working on
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 4:32 PM
just look at some white noise
4:32 PM
and youll start seeing shapes
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But i find imposition quite boring
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Oh wow! Things happened very fast for you all it seemed. That’s so interesting. Can I ask what the processes were like while you were making them? Were you spending dedicated time talking to them with nothing else going on or was it more of a passive narration while doing other things?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
But i find imposition quite boring
Im kinda demotivated for it too lol
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 4:33 PM
There is a lot of quick people recently.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 4:33 PM
i just talked to mine one evening, the second day i talked to her in the evening too, and third day when i woke up she was there with me in my head and we talked some more
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thats about it really
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Milk
Oh wow! Things happened very fast for you all it seemed. That’s so interesting. Can I ask what the processes were like while you were making them? Were you spending dedicated time talking to them with nothing else going on or was it more of a passive narration while doing other things?
I spent a few minutes actively narrating to him and he replied after the second or so sentence, and then started talking in full sentences
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 4:34 PM
just talking to them whenever i remember
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Kei Wendt
I spent a few minutes actively narrating to him and he replied after the second or so sentence, and then started talking in full sentences
After that i continued talking to him throughout the days and his personality became better developed
4:35 PM
I usually like to set aside some time to actively narrate with him but i've been neglecting that a bit
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 4:35 PM
im currently trying to improve my near non existential visualization and im having decent progress with it, i just put my makeshift blindfold on and sit there looking like a dumbass for 30min at a time
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Kei Wendt
I usually like to set aside some time to actively narrate with him but i've been neglecting that a bit
Otherwise, i do passive narration throughout the days and just let him jump in whenever
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
im currently trying to improve my near non existential visualization and im having decent progress with it, i just put my makeshift blindfold on and sit there looking like a dumbass for 30min at a time
Oh nice How is that going? My dad and brother have no visualization so i wonder if they want to learn and if tulpa-related techniques can help them
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Kei Wendt
Im kinda demotivated for it too lol
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 4:36 PM
Looking at white noise you will get immediate results (hard to extrapolate to no noise though)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 4:37 PM
i had none at all either, i just look past my eyelids with my eyes straightened, clear my mind and whenever something shows up i try to focus on them but not too hard
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i've been doing it a bit before tulpa stuff though
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Looking at white noise you will get immediate results (hard to extrapolate to no noise though)
Oh cool I've been going for walks imagining him walking behind me and that worked at first, and i was able to sense him after the walks, but recently i've been more scattered and i find it harder to focus
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Kei Wendt
Oh cool I've been going for walks imagining him walking behind me and that worked at first, and i was able to sense him after the walks, but recently i've been more scattered and i find it harder to focus
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 4:38 PM
i think it works better with rgb noise
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Alrighty I'll test that out
4:39 PM
Later today
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 4:39 PM
the key to visualization i find is to not strain your eyes, and being super patient
4:39 PM
also a silent place, and a blindfold if the room isnt dark enough
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i just tie my scarf around my head
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its harder than making a tulpa for me lol
4:41 PM
but i try to have no expectation with it either
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 4:44 PM
I visualize eyes open over reality
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There are lots of resources out there for improving visualization
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Luminesce: Imposition is pretty nice for us. We just learned to do it by focusing really hard on seeing each other in the real world, first just in our room and later by walking around together and such. (edited)
5:28 PM
A trick that helps us a lot is walking around your tulpa while trying to impose them, for some reason the idea of the angle I'm seeing them from rotating suddenly makes them much clearer to see.
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Ohh ok
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Luminesce: Nothing wrong with just doing visualization and not imposition though (edited)
5:29 PM
Just do the things that sound good to you
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We basically never wonderland for example, we only talk in "around the head-space" visualization, impose, and switch
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And some people are the opposite, do none of that except interact in the wonderland
5:30 PM
(immersive visualization, compared to our visualized-around-the-head visualization with no environment but IRL behind it)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 5:31 PM
immersive visualization is what im aiming for, remains to be seen how long it takes to get there
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Reisen
Luminesce: Imposition is pretty nice for us. We just learned to do it by focusing really hard on seeing each other in the real world, first just in our room and later by walking around together and such. (edited)
Luminesce: (In case that wording was weird since I'm the host, my tulpas have imposed me while switched before lol) (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 5:32 PM
body ownership dissociation is enough for me lmao
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Reisen
Luminesce: Imposition is pretty nice for us. We just learned to do it by focusing really hard on seeing each other in the real world, first just in our room and later by walking around together and such. (edited)
FlareonOFun 4/4/2023 6:18 PM
I'll try that. I've been trying to imposition for so long but nothing worked.
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I followed the wikihow guide and surprisingly it went really well. I got full vocality in less than 2 days and managed to switch as soon as i tried (with some instruction thanks to some people here) Only thing i havent learned from that guide is imposition which i am working on
@Kei Wendt - jump you can check this for imposition https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431591449348276224/1092561182222729397
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oh yeah destin dm'd me that
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Leiko
I followed the wikihow guide and surprisingly it went really well. I got full vocality in less than 2 days and managed to switch as soon as i tried (with some instruction thanks to some people here) Only thing i havent learned from that guide is imposition which i am working on
@Kei Wendt - jump you can check this for imposition https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431591449348276224/1092561182222729397
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 6:54 PM
lol, just though you sent the same shader yesterday!
6:55 PM
I sent them another one but its basically the same. 😅 (edited)
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ohh i thought they were the same lol
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/4/2023 6:56 PM
i searched for rgb noise on shadertoy and sent you a random one lol
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is it normal to have extremely vivid imagination? like i can visualise anything even all the details perfectly
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I don't think it's typical, but it's not a bad thing
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ngl i thought everyone could untill recenty
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Yeah most people cant tmk
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I’m pretty sure peoples ability to visualize things is a spectrum (like everything in life lol) with aphantasia on one end and extremely vivid visual ability on the other. Im sure it’s a bell curve with most people somewhere in the middle
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Yeah
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Im like Almost able to visualize perfectly I mean i can but i get distracted and things start to drift (adhd moment) But when i meditate i can visualize perfectly
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That’s very impressive! I’m jealous, though I’m sure it has its downsides too
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id be so annoyed if i couldnt imagine stuff
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Milk
That’s very impressive! I’m jealous, though I’m sure it has its downsides too
It's mostly annoying when i get a bad image stuck in my head Doesn't happen very often anymore though
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/4/2023 8:42 PM
i heard somewhere people with dyskexia are better in imagining things
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really?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/4/2023 8:42 PM
but don’t take my word for it
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Luminesce: that's a pretty random assertion that probably warrants a source (edited)
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well i am dyslexic and i do have perfect imagination
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Dyslexia runs in my family I'm very good at reading so i figured i dont have it but i do mix up letters a lot and it takes a lot of concentration for me to not
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id be so annoyed if i couldnt imagine stuff
I had a film professor who had aphantasia. Made it hard for her to study film because she couldn’t recall images in her mind. So she had students do projects where they took scenes from movies and created smells for each of them instead of visuals
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/4/2023 8:44 PM
as imthis is vox i don’t trust it completely, might be something to it though
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Milk
I had a film professor who had aphantasia. Made it hard for her to study film because she couldn’t recall images in her mind. So she had students do projects where they took scenes from movies and created smells for each of them instead of visuals
woah thats quite cool
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/4/2023 8:45 PM
people here imagining sensations, couldnt be me
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/4/2023 8:45 PM
when i watched it i thought that they just cherrypicked people for the video to make people with dyslexia feel better about their situation
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
Luminesce: Oh, surprised you found the source that fast lol (edited)
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No idea how reputable it is, but it's better than hearsay
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i can also imagine how stuff tastes??
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/4/2023 8:46 PM
just searched dyslexia on youtube and saw this was video that i watched, good youtube
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i can also imagine how stuff tastes??
and textures of stuff but i can actully kinda feel it idk how to describe it
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/4/2023 8:46 PM
No idea how reputable it is, but it's better than hearsay
@Reisen - jump yeah as i say i don’t have much confidence in tbut was interesting eliza brought it up
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like idk biting into some fries i can taste it and feel it 😭
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Can you all recall smells and like feel it in your nose and head even though the smell isn’t there?
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I can imagine all my senses perfectly too I wonder if it has something to do with having schizophrenia though because according to some schizophrenia symptoms can be associated with a clinically overactive imagination
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Yes
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/4/2023 8:47 PM
like idk biting into some fries i can taste it and feel it 😭
@🪷 - jump who needs eating with that siperpower
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Kei Wendt
I can imagine all my senses perfectly too I wonder if it has something to do with having schizophrenia though because according to some schizophrenia symptoms can be associated with a clinically overactive imagination
ohno
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
like idk biting into some fries i can taste it and feel it 😭
@🪷 - jump who needs eating with that siperpower
literally
8:48 PM
but it also makes me really hungery
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